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00:00 Well, welcome to this month’s Ask Your Health Doctor. My name’s Andrew Murray. Every third Friday of the month from 7 to late PM, I do a health-related topic and we are very pleased to have Dr Raymond Pete join us and has been a very long-term guest of the show. Very briefly, yep, we’re definitely changing the seasons going from late summer, fall and the colours are beautiful and hey, we’re going to get some rain at some point soon, but no hurry. Okay, so for the past 10 years, as I say, we’ve been blessed to have Dr Ray Pete on this show to give his scientific perspective on what we are told is good for us medically. And from his research, we’ve sought to educate and light the way for others to show the many misleading claims drug manufacturers make and to expose the truth concerning many prevalent drugs prescribed without full knowledge of the science which clearly shows harm in using them. 01:02 And last month, we covered the harmful effects of serotonin, which a lot of people believe is good for them, and the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, which are commonly prescribed using the false justification that they are beneficial for mood, depression, anxiety, etc. Prior to that, we discussed the ongoing war on words or the ideologies concerning estrogen and progesterone with a huge amount of data showing estrogen’s pro-carcinogenic activity whilst demonstrating progesterone’s protective anti-cancer benefits. And this month, amongst other things, I wanted to cover the misleading, dangerous and widespread collusion and cover-ups surrounding nitric oxides propaganda in endothelial health and the heart attack risks associated with the infamous drug Viagra and how cholesterol once again is so important in the maintenance of good health from so many angles and that the use of statins is so dangerous. So Dr. Pete, 02:03 are you with us? Yes. Thanks so much for giving your time again this month and as usual, just tell people about your background, Dr. Pete, where you came from and what you spent your last four decades doing. In the 50s, I was mostly studying humanities. In the 60s, I got involved in experimental education and then in 1968, as 72, did graduate school in biology for a PhD in physiology. Okay, and you’ve spent the last 30, 40 years, and I know I’ve basically gaining information and finding out that what you were taught or what your professors wanted you to believe was inaccurate and was not scientifically valid. When you looked at actual scientific research, you found lots of conflicting information about things that were given or tenets that 03:08 were held as the truth at the time. Yeah, over the years, I spent a lot of time in the University Science Library and in all those years, there were only two professors that I saw repeatedly in the library looking things up out of several dozen. Because you were there a lot. I was there a lot and they weren’t. It was rare to see. Interesting. Okay, I wanted to carry on the kind of discourse here about the commonly prescribed drugs that a lot of people will be very familiar with and how there really isn’t any good information supporting their use and how, as you’ve mentioned in the past, the political weight behind making decisions in FDA approving drugs and the huge lobbying, financial lobbying that goes on from drug companies and right through 04:10 to the indoctrination and education within the medical teaching establishments to further reinforce the ideology that they want to keep in place to support both drug manufacturing profits. And dare I say, it’s sick patients that don’t actually get better, but just kind of hanging on. The industry has promoted the idea that the only valid science to support a medical approach is the randomized, blinded study in humans. But that requires a huge amount of financing. Not only the drug companies want to put that much money into that sort of thing. The average typical scientist actually looking for things to explain how the organism works, they do their 05:16 experiments on animals at a moderate expense, maybe several thousand dollars rather than dozens of millions of dollars. And so the drug companies say that animal research isn’t valid for basing medical decisions, except when they don’t have any valid human information, the drug companies will base everything on animal studies. For example, with estrogen, they first tested estrogen on dogs and found killed them in various ways. So they shifted to rats and the whole science of preventing osteoporosis by using estrogen, for example, is based on rats because they gave the right kind of result where dogs gave the opposite result. So by selecting their 06:21 animal experiments, they can gather up information to support selling their product. But if it’s anything critical of their product, then it can’t be accepted. It has to be these huge double blinded controlled human trials. I mean, in terms of getting objective results, really, people are probably the only truly accurate representation of a drug’s effects and the safety and efficacy of any any products. I know that the animal models are kind of called akin to or they have a similar physiology. And I know when they first started working with primates, obviously, there was a big backlash against that after a decade or two. And then they used, I say, beagles and things in the 70s for smoking experiments and then kind of worked their way down to smaller, cheaper animals. I think the expense of it all sometimes is probably relevant, 07:25 too. But in terms of trials, the trials that are done now with people, those we would hope would present the best possible documented evidence for a drug’s effect. But as you’ve pointed out repeatedly, when you actually look at the paper that’s written to supply the evidence space for that use, sometimes there’s fairly glaring mistakes in the setup of the trial or the inference that they get from the results. And sometimes it’s just there in plain sight that what they’re dealing with is something that’s really not that not that well known, and isn’t that significant. And actually, as you’ve mentioned before, in the 40s and 50s, when I don’t think there was such a lot of pressure financially from medical people to produce things and drugs to get manufactured and the whole circle, the whole wheel of profit, that there’s plenty of 08:25 evidence that they have found. And I wanted to mention the anti serotonin drugs. I think last month when we were talking about this, I don’t know if I got to the article which was published in the 40s about the effects of syproheptidine as an anti serotonin agent and antihistamine on cutaneous allergy. And so I mentioned the things like the SSRIs, the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, which would block the uptake of serotonin, making it more available, more prevalent. But yet here, in the 40s and 50s, there was clear evidence that they were using anti serotonin drugs to benefit people. And how that just gets twisted when there’s a mode and a way of manufacturing and spinning a product and putting it out to millions and millions of people at great profit. So in my recent newsletter on cholesterol, I mentioned that for decades, 09:33 it’s been known that if you lower cholesterol, you create depression, suicidal tendency, cognitive impairment, all kinds of physical ailments that are demonstrably damaging cell structure, leading to these disease increases. But just a couple months ago, a new trial was started to supposedly treat atherosclerosis and heart disease by removing cholesterol from the arteries, using exactly the chemical, the cyclo-dextrons, that for decades has been shown to damage the organism and the specific cells by removing 10:36 cholesterol from them. So for example, one trial years ago found that just a short exposure to the cyclo-dextron first, it removed cholesterol from the fibers of the hearing apparatus and the cochlear hair cells, causing deafness in the people. And animal studies made it clear that these things are very dangerous, damaging brain cells, muscle cells, hearing apparatus, and so on. But the trial is going ahead on the really sort of crazy idea that taking cholesterol out of the blood vessels is going to improve the health and prevent heart disease. About 30 or 40 years ago, I talked to a person who is now a well-known physiology professor. 11:41 He at that time was proposing to inject very fine powdered ground glass intravenously to grind out the cholesterol from the atheroma. That really probably isn’t as harmful as this current human trial using the cyclo-dextrons. Let me just hold you there for a second. You’re listening to Ask Europe Dr. Kenyamudi Gauravur 91.1 FM and from 7.30 to the end of the show. You’re invited to call in hopefully with questions related to this month’s continuing subject of collusion in the medical industry and this month I’m going to be asking Dr. Pete a little more about nitric oxide and then we’ll get into some of the other drugs that have got lots of information about them that would have you not use them if you really knew what it was about. The number if you’re in the area or even if you’re outside the area or even if you’re in 12:43 Sweden or Hong Kong, 707-923-3911. So we’ll take all of this from 7.30 on. Dr. Pete, I wanted to ask you a little bit more about and it’s something that you mentioned in that last paragraph when you were talking about flexibility. You’ve mentioned before that cholesterol and I think I was probably correctly told this when I was studying that cholesterol introduces fluidity and flexibility into a molecule and that when cells become rigid they rupture and they are not able red blood cells etc etc in the cell membrane. This is probably another example here of the kind of nonsensical cholesterol train of thought that wants to lower cholesterol artificially and you mentioned that low cholesterol has been positively correlated with things like dementia. 13:45 Negative neurodegenerative effects of low cholesterol because it’s such an important molecule. What do you say about the flexibility that’s conferred to cells with adequate cholesterol? The best known model of that kind of flexibility is the red blood cell which has to fold up to go through the capillaries which are narrower than the diameter of the cell. So if they are stiffened by removal of cholesterol they just won’t go through the capillaries and when they are put under pressure they tend to disintegrate because of the brittleness. But that same stiffness has been identified in essentially every type of cell. It just happens the red blood cell is very convenient when to look at and measure the stiffness but 14:47 that lubricating quality of cholesterol is something that really the foundation of what it means goes back 90 or 100 years to the work of Boenkenberg de Jong, a Dutch chemist who studied emulsions and he called the complex emulsion a co-acervate or a complex co-acervate meaning clustering together of different phases of different types of molecule. For example, a starch and a protein don’t just mix they find stability of containing different proportions of the two polymers and different proportions of water. So you get several phases with just those three substances and those phases have become stable 15:55 and each phase has its way of relating to small molecules so that they will segregate ions, sodium and potassium and other molecules, sugar and urea and so on in very complex ways. That led to many people followed up with the implication for what it means for the cell having these different types of polymers, nucleic acid, starches, proteins, complex fats, interacting in the system and Gilbert Ling for example was working directly out of Boenkenberg de Jong’s basic research on the physics of solutions and it’s in this context of the actual physical approach to biology that the current work on how cholesterol relates to 17:07 the various health problems. The cholesterol has a lubricating limbering effect on these co-acervate complex mixtures of polymers and small molecules. The people who ignore that physical basis of biology talk about cholesterol as existing in cell membranes but every protein in the cell is associated in particular ways with cholesterol. The cytoskeleton, the structure that creates cell division, the matrix that regulates and holds the DNA in the proper arrangement preventing certain regions of the DNA from replicating, allowing other parts 18:17 to be reproduced so that the cell can express only those proteins and RNA. All of this involves intimate lubricating or relaxing effect of cholesterol on these large polymer molecules. The people who talk about cholesterol as simply a membrane substance, some of them say that 97%!o(MISSING)f the cholesterol in the cell is in the cytoplasmic membrane but that would ignore 97%!o(MISSING)f its real functions which are to control the entire physiology of the cell. 19:19 That explains how these studies can seem to be sane if they ignore the actual science behind what a cell is doing. Okay so I know we were going to talk a little bit later on about statins and so what you’ve just mentioned here is in relation to statins in terms of the very very damaging effect of statins and I know that they’ve been associated with cancers and several of them have been pulled off the market and they’re always trying to find new ways to lower cholesterol with things that they perhaps are not calling statins anymore but by some other mechanism they’ll do it but time and time again it’s shown that cholesterol is so important and actually a positive indicator of longevity when as you’ve mentioned over the age of 50 for example you actually better off in long-term studies with a cholesterol that’s right on the 20:25 edge of the upper limit of the reference range you’re slightly over around 250 even there you go I mean 200 is what they call the cutoff point but 250 is more protective for you. Okay let’s I wanted to talk to you I wanted to ask you rather about nitrous and nitric oxide and this came up and kind of jolted me in terms of asking you about it because I know that around here and probably elsewhere people will understand what I’m about to say because they’ll probably have seen it on the side of the road which is commonly where you see it little collections of gas canisters and then there will be you know beer cans and cigarette packets and other evidence of people hanging together and and quote unquote having a good time. The nitrous oxide that’s used in these little cylinders is a propellant for oh I know whipped for cream so it kind of you know gets whipped out of the nozzle under pressure and you can do things with it and it’s also used in some dental practices 21:31 but I think it’s fairly oh I remember it when I was a child in England and they called it laughing gas and some people were sedated with it. It’s not the same as nitric nitric oxide although they’re both very similar. Nitrogen containing compounds one with one nitrogen and the other with two but very different in their physiology but they do both produce as a byproduct of their metabolism in the body nitrate and nitrite which are very harmful. Do you know anything about night can I start with nitrous oxide first? Yeah it can be metabolized into the others so the immediate effect isn’t as harmful as the nitric oxide but since the body can metabolize it into nitrite nitrate and nitric oxide you don’t want to expose yourself to it 22:31 very many times. Yeah because you see collections on the side of the road with 20 or 30 canisters and you know God knows what’s going on so people just don’t understand how these things that they think are just harmless or just a bit of fun. Actually a very negatively impacting the health physiologically because of the products that they metabolize into and then let’s just talk about nitric oxide. I know you’ve done several newsletters on it in the past and you’ve mentioned it previously as being a very negative product. I know that I wanted to ask you about Viagra and it’s obviously based on nitric oxide and how the drug companies basically managed to turn this basic poison into a medical product that they could market to a very targeted audience and I think they’ve got a huge response from it in terms of sales because of its targeted use in erectile dysfunction and how its negative physiological effects far outweigh any short-term 23:37 effect that might be gained from you know solving impotence temporarily when testosterone has another very similar effect but without the deleterious effects. So would you speak to nitric oxide and also the people that discovered nitric oxide and got the 1998 Nobel Prize for it from them and their research they’re obviously purporting this product to be very beneficial you know we can’t do without it. It’s used for killing infections off from you know white blood cells they obviously mention it for impotence and in atherosclerosis they’re saying that it can be avoided because it’s typically a symptom of low nitric oxide. In the early part of the 20th century several gases were known and studied for their toxic 24:41 effects cyanide carbon monoxide hydrogen sulfide and nitric oxide were in various ways found to kill cells or impair their energy production blocking respiration and these have over the years found to be produced inside the body and some people say that if the body produces them they must be beneficial but until about 1980 when nitric oxide was shown to be produced in the body it was mostly known as the toxic component of smog but as it came to be studied through the 80s several people were showing that that toxic effect contributes to diseases such as diabetes by 25:48 knocking out oxidative energy production but in the late 80s someone noticed that estrogen acts by way of increasing nitric oxide for example that when uterus is exposed to either estrogen or nitric oxide it swells up takes on water and goes through its oxygen-resisting type of metabolism and that sort of thing happens everywhere under the influence of estrogen and so the estrogen industry has created a great myth about the benefit of estrogen and so the nitric oxide people attached themselves to the estrogen nitric oxide interactions and then the the viagra came on the market it was shown to intensify the effects of the endogenous nitric 26:57 oxide and that combined with the estrogen myth created a great surge of positive thinking about nitric oxide and suppressed all of those 10 years of research showing that it contributed to various diseases brain damage heart damage vascular damage and so on and all of that was reversed and then for the next 10 years 20 years it has been highly promoted as a wonder substance that for example women with pulmonary arterial hypertension in preparing their circulation creating heart stress the blood vessels were failing to open and 28:06 so they said the nitric oxide opens blood vessels let’s have them breathe nitric oxide but one of the functions of interfering with oxidative metabolism is that that causes cells to turn on collagen production and breathing nitric oxide creates fibrosis of the lungs and I’ve known people older women who were being given viagra because of that mystique of nitric oxide and the lungs the the whole history of of nitric oxide and its toxicity was reversed to the extent that in the 80s people started saying smog is good for you in in Mexico City they found that kids who went to the beach at low altitude and got away from 29:14 the smog that they developed asthma and they said that’s because nitric oxide from the smog is curing their asthma when they’re at home breathing it in the city there really is no limit to the type of advertising funny science that they’ll do okay so just let people know 7 30 now from now and 2 8 o’clock if you’d like to call them any questions related or unrelated to medical misinformation poor advertising phony advertising drug culture that we’re all subjected to in advertising etc numbers 707 923 3911 you mentioned also this feature and we’ve talked about DNA methylation in the past and that there is a there is a kind of a conjoining of estrogen 30:20 nitric oxide and increased DNA methylation which is heritable and it can be passed down so it’s not just the immediate effects it’s actually something that affects the DNA and can be heritable to the next generation yeah for example it shuts down your energy producing systems and that shuts down your expensive organs and tissues such as brain and so you can turn off the the best functions of the organism not only in the individual but pass it on to the next generations okay because it’s basically something that’s going to physically change protein transcription or other factors which are fairly fairly fairly defined and locked in as it were until such a change as the such a time as the DNA is methylated yeah I think anything that blocks energy production 31:23 high energy oxidative metabolism is going to do that same transgenerational damage shutting down the expensive but valuable organs yeah and you said that nitric oxide also kind of shuts down the beneficial oxidative metabolism of glucose and that’s something that’s gives a very energy energy expensive process of any energy wasteful way of producing energy yeah and in in the heart of when the parasympathetic system which is activated to an extreme in shock that slows down your heart and the parasympathetic acetylcholine stimulation activates nitric oxide production and that reduces the heart’s ability to use oxygen 32:23 so it’s in effect creating a hibernation state animals in the fall increase their production of nitric oxide if they’re going to go into the hibernating state but in the heart the stress and shock reaction can shut down the energy production and need for oxygen within limits it has its benefit because if you can’t use oxygen you don’t suffer in the same way from oxygen deprivation but what happens is that the function of the heart is restricted by that reduced ability to use oxygen the heart becomes unable to relax relaxation is a high energy function if you turn off energy availability 33:27 um contractile cells such as the heart or other muscles won’t be able to relax it in the heart that will raise the the diastolic pressure usually the whole circulatory system fails to relax in between beats and having not relaxed fully then it can’t beat fully so it creates a progressive tendency to heart failure and that’s an interesting concept that relaxation is dependent on energy we tend to think that relaxation is a passive event um you know hypoglycemia or suffocation will lead to a constriction of blood vessels and even seizures uh the the brain goes through a total activation when it’s deprived of either or both glucose and 34:30 oxygen all right just quickly getting back to nitrates and nitrites um you’ve also uh pointed out the fact that these are basically uh byproducts in the nitric oxides uh oxidation and these themselves have a very um metabolic uh shutting uh shutting down the metabolic rate activity by themselves and so i’m i kind of think about i know they’ve been advertised now probably through some of some of this information coming to light but uh the meats the sausages and things that they uh now call uh nitrate free and um you know when they’ve tried to preserve these meats also um to say that these nitrates are part of a kind of a you know a preservation process but that these are in themselves uh metabolic regulators that they shut down metabolism and so in that way they had been linked to cancers too yeah in 1970 they were definitely identified as 35:31 cancer carcinogen formers in the stomach and now that nitric oxide has been promoted the nitrates have lost their carcinogenicity apparently okay and then there’s also another causal link to um Alzheimer’s that’s been shown uh in relation to the uh content of nitric oxide in the patient’s body uh when they are suffering Alzheimer’s i’m uh yeah starting at about the age of 40 nitric oxide synthesis increases generally even in healthy people but it’s intensified in the tremendous brain okay now you’re listening to ask your abdoctor k. midi gavel 91.1 from now until eight o’clock at the end of the show you’re invited to call in the questions related or unrelated to this month’s subject the number is 707-923-3911 um so i’ll ask you a 36:33 question my name is michael i’m from redway uh what is the amyl mitrate there was poppers i think athletes used to do them how does that fit into all of this probably the same uh nitrogen releasing compound right so amyl nitrate uh used by the gay industry actually i think it was pretty pretty fond of amyl nitrate do you know anything about amyl nitrate no just just the legend basically that for a while they thought it was the cause of of uh AIDS and uh i think uh it it’s still considered to be of an immune destructive chemical an interesting thing i saw recently was that nitric oxide stops the hair follicle renewal and so if people start thinking about baldness they might be more interested in investigating the dangers of nitric oxide than just heart disease or 37:37 dementia yeah yeah okay well between that and uh neuro vegetative uh processes okay so uh i guess we’ll move on to the things like we’ve mentioned the statins and lipid lowering drugs we’ve mentioned estrogen and progesterone um in the uh various trials that have been done that are showing negative effects of estrogen uh now we’ve mentioned nitric oxide i’ve got a few others here that are the aid because it’s such a yeah it’s so so vogue but the um add and adhd drugs but let’s we’ll take a call we’ve got a caller uh let’s take this caller caller you’re on the air where what’s your question and where you’re from um mike from connecticut i have a quick question throughout the repeated i wanted to find out what causes uh faces the necks of uh agey men to turn red more so than women and were there any tips to avoid that did you get that dr pee no not 38:38 clearly well to ask a question away again caller i wasn’t too sure of what you were trying to yeah just wanted to know i noticed that the aging men they turn to the other faces the next room oh that’s any redder right versus women more so i was wondering if there’s any repulsion or how tips to avoid that what do you think about that vasodilation or the ruddy cheeks that uh he was saying that typically affects men or seems to affect men more than women um i think it’s um related to the uh the hot flush that women get at menopause which is clearly a a surge of nitric oxide but uh i think in men that there are other things including an actual deficiency of riboflavin i think that’s uh for some reason a consequence of the nitric oxide poisoning that riboflavin vitamin v2 is essential for the respiratory 39:46 energy production and uh the rosacea cheeks and uh red shiny nose and such the uh vitamin b2 is is usually a factor in that i’ve seen uh almost instantaneous relief when someone got a big dose of of vitamin b2 but it doesn’t last long once you’ve got a deficiency the tissue doesn’t retain the vitamin b2 effectively so it it seems to be a chronic problem of of getting the diet converted so you every day are taking in a little more than the normal amount of vitamin b2 okay thank you for that great thing for the answer okay now we’ve got two more callers so let’s one more okay let’s take this next call a call you’re away from and what’s your 40:46 question oh hi um i’m calling from the mendicino coson albion um my i guess my main question is cardiologists will frequently um tell their clients taking uh statins to take a code to 10 compound um for fatigue and i was wondering how that uh helps and the other thing they uh have them carry around with them is um the nitroglycerin um stuff so i just wanted wanted to know uh dr pete’s feeling on the coq 10 and um that how that works and why would the statins mess around with that anyway the statins are poisoning the uh the enzyme that makes a cholesterol and that 41:48 system it makes us several substances other than cholesterol including uh coq 10 and so uh that’s now widely recognized that uh you’re poisoning the whole respiratory system oh lovely the coq 10 is is one of the other essential factors for oxidative metabolism and when that’s deficient the failure of energy can reach the point that muscle cells uh lacking functioning mitochondria if you exercise where um about seven percent of the statin users have some muscle pain if you exercise while you’re under the influence of the statin you greatly increase the risk of killing the muscle cells because the energy 42:48 production can’t keep up with the energy expenditure and if the muscle breakdown is complete that can destroy your kidneys by the the flow of debris from the disintegrating muscle yes thank you very much and so giving a good dose of of coq 10 is very protective and it isn’t just protecting the muscles because the statin is doing exactly the same thing to the brain mitochondria heart but mitochondria coq 10 is protective to all systems oh thank you so much okay thank you i’m going to hang up okay and then what do you think about nitroglycerin very quickly for our relief of angina as it was used in terms of in terms of what it is um it has a similar side effect it’s uh something that i think should should be limited 43:52 use it to relieve the symptoms but work on directing the problem with such things as coq 10 and normalizing oxidative metabolism okay we have another caller so let’s take this call a call away from what’s your question uh i’m from uh new york and uh i have just a question i have two questions but on the coq 10 you said a good dose what did you mean by a good dose is that 100 milligrams or is that more i i don’t think anyone really knows how to schedule the dosing i think just by effect if if you feel your muscles and nerves are functioning properly i don’t get any muscle shortness or swelling then the dose is probably enough i think okay so my two questions are one um as you get older um uh hydrochloric acid that’s producing your stomach seems to decline maybe it varies person to person when it does so um 44:54 no matter even after eating the best food you know maybe your diet if you don’t get enough hcl literally you’re not going to be able to digest it properly you’re not going to be able to actually efficiently metabolize the food in a way that ultimately allows all the functions that you talk about to to occur what i did more recently is instead of taking a dose of like 800 milligram tablet of betaine h hcl i took a smaller dose like 150 200 just a little few capsules and i take it with um the glycine uh the uh the gelatin that you recommend so that it doesn’t cause any irritation and i think it’s improved the ability of my body to digest food is that possible oh sure any acid they used to have uh drug stories would dispense a glass of dilute hydrochloric acid with a glass straw for people to uh sip to acidify their their stomach during 45:54 meals but um even a strong vinegar acetic acid helps the enzymes to function so that the betaine hydrochloride definitely acidifies the stomach and works but one long-range concern is that betaine feeds into the metal metabolism and you want to look at the long-range effects of increasing methylation currently it’s stylish to supplement metal groups but one of the the background fact is that if you decrease the methionine and cysteine in the diet of animals their lifespan increases 30 or 40 percent just by the absence of those metal donors so i would suspect that chronic use of of betaine is going to be like 47:00 increased consumption of of the methionine cysteine can i interrupt you can i interrupt you for a second i don’t see this point so on this point um if you’re taking glycine and the uh the gelatin that that’s that sort of is positive and that’s one of the ways that i think you’ve described to get away from those particular amino acids that are problematic so if one’s to take not 800 milligrams but maybe you know a few crystals like 50 to 100 milligrams just a tiny amount wrapped in that gelatin it seems to me yeah that the long-term concerns you raise um that possible that’ll balance it because the gelatin doesn’t have the uh methyl donors okay so my second question relates to with someone wakes up in the middle of the night i guess they could either use the red lamp they could get eat you know carrots or some milk or they could actually take a co2 bath and in the night obviously cortisol raises up to you know i guess five six a.m. in the morning 48:04 which combination of those would be you know reasonable rational to use to try to help your body get back into a state of repair during that period of time when it’s supposed to be repairing you know even though you might be sort of having a cortisol jump because you need enough protein during the day or whatever or you can get the right combination of foods what’s a good way during the night to you know what which of those methods might be useful or as a combination useful and nitric oxide has the same curve rising to a peak around seven a.m. along with colise with cortisol and so light penetrating red light helps to free the respiratory apparatus from both carbon monoxide and nitric oxide so that is a way of protecting yourself from darkness but sugar and the thyroid function producing carbon dioxide the carbon dioxide is the basic 49:09 stabilizer against stress what about a dry co2 bath if you can’t sort of produce in your body because it’s sort of the middle of the night what about sort of oozing it through your your skin yeah if you if you have another way to do it yeah for example of having a big plastic box full of co2 by your bed if you’re having night stress you can just get out of bed and sit in your your box of co2 and absorb that for 20 or 30 minutes and without without eating that so if you don’t eat those those are good methods the reason i asked that is i’m doing it and i think it works and i just i’m essentially trying to verify that what you think i’m doing is not crazy and you’re telling me no it’s not crazy sounds like i i don’t know it looks silly to sit in a giant plastic bag full of carbon dioxide with a really it’s even in japan they’re treating cancer with transdermal carbon dioxide certainly 50:12 better than my wife looks like i have two heads you’re right it does seem odd you know okay definitely not conventional thank you very much cool yeah i appreciate your call there um dr p in the last few six minutes or so before the top of the hour um i wanted to just quickly mention the add and adhd drugs um that children are so increasingly prescribed for their inability to focus and concentrate and how this is now treated as a disease for which drugs like amphetamines are prescribed for our young children what do you have to say about that diagnosis of attention deficit disorder and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder things that impair the oxygen metabolism of your brain do create attention deficit and some of the studies found that coffee improved focus and attention not only 51:18 in those with the diagnosis but even honor students had better focus when they had a coffee supplement so that there is a benefit from some some supplements but it happens that as far back as as late 1960s people were noticing a connection between the amphetamines and lymphoma and i was aware of that because i had a close friend who loved his benzedrine and he died in his 40s from lymphoma that kept me aware of the research and for about 30 years no one would admit that that connection existed but lately more people are recognizing that lymphoma is the result of of toxic stress yeah okay and in that ritalin again is one of those 52:24 drugs that most people will recognize in the prescription treatment of add and adhd to young delicate brains that are you know they should be just growing healthily away and you’ve mentioned obviously all these things in the past that are very beneficial like sugar which is one of the things they’ll want to keep your children away from obviously improving your thyroid function with good nutrition it relaxes the nerves by restoring their energy and carbon dioxide production yeah well it’s just another unfortunate example of how these things that are prescribed to us are developed developed and weaponized if you like against us for a massive profit and how there’s really a lot of dangerous side effects in a lot of these things and that most people don’t really question it the doctors the doctors the one in power and you do what the doctor says and unfortunately you get on a a kind of slide your first prescription prescription 53:25 then becomes a second prescription becomes a third becomes a fourth becomes a fifth you know anyway without laboring that point let me just close the close the show thanks so much for your time dr. Pete and thank you for those people that called in really appreciate you giving your time like you do thank you I also wanted to just close this show you know it’s a little bit close to eight o’clock not quite eight o’clock but there were a couple of things that I saw that kind of clinched it not that talking about all this scientifically with all the evidence doesn’t clinch it but you can go find this yourself two of the most prestigious journals medical journals the journals of medicine in the world of the lancet and the new england journal of medicine and these are two quotes that I’m going to read out now from people that were at the head of these organizations as editors etc. Richard Horton excuse me who’s the editor 54:29 the editor-in-chief excuse me of the lancet said this in 2015 that the case against science is straightforward much of the scientific literature perhaps half may simply be untrue and then dr. Marcia Angle former editor-in-chief of the new england journal of medicine wrote in 2009 that it’s simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that’s published or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines she said quote I take no pleasure in this conclusion which I reach slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor so this has a huge implications then and as we’ve mentioned in uh show before lasts in august that evidence-based medicine apparently is completely worthless if the evidence-based is false or corrupted which stands to reason and there was another quote from dr relman another former editor-in-chief of the new england journal of medicine he said this in 2002 55:34 the medical profession is being bought by the pharmaceutical industry not only in terms of the practice of medicine but also in terms of teaching and research the academic institutions of this country are allowing themselves to be the paid agents of the pharmaceutical industry I think it’s disgraceful okay so for those of you who’ve listened to the show this evening and called in you can find out more information about dr. Pete online his website is www.raypeat r-a-y-p-e-a-t dot com he has lots of fully referenced scientific articles that are not just his hearsay or his opinion but which are quoted and referred to and in very succinct style yeah confer a lot of elaborate information that you can find out yourself on the web so do your research folks it’s all out there and look at his website and his publications 56:35 and when you hear him and you’ve heard the previous shows you can understand that he knows what he’s talking about and he spent his whole life studying it so take advantage of it and for those that have ears let them hear until this time next month yeah have a happy fall

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